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		<title>By: FoxyLady</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215630</link>
		<dc:creator>FoxyLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hank kaczmarek......right on!  We're taxed, surcharged and added fees, to death.  Can't afford to live here any longer.  Albany needs to cut the fat off the top.  Patterson will be worse than Spitzer at the helm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hank kaczmarek&#8230;&#8230;right on!  We&#8217;re taxed, surcharged and added fees, to death.  Can&#8217;t afford to live here any longer.  Albany needs to cut the fat off the top.  Patterson will be worse than Spitzer at the helm.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215469</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The front page of today's Buffalo News could not have been much more depressing.

"New taxes to to support record aid"  Despite Paterson's warnings of limited aid and the need for cuts, Tom Precious reports that "(l)egislators and the Paterson administration are not looking to reduce spending levels from last year.  Instead, negotiators appear willing to fund at lower levels than former Gov...Spitzer proposed two months ago..."

So, they aren't really cutting anything of substance, and will in fact be raising taxes and fees.  It will be slightly less spwnding than what Client 9 wanted, but still a record (it is, after all, an election year for the legislature).  So, as the economy continues its slide, the Excelsior State will continue to believe it can tax itself into prosperity.  Do I tell my kids to flee now?

This story, of course, was sandwiched between the one about Spitzer lying in regard to Troopergate (I'm shocked, I tell you), and the article outlining the anger of the parents of the young lad who was allegedly fondled by a school aid, only to have the illustrious Buffalo school superintendent claim that he never read a certified letter ... that he signed for ... from the teacher who claimed to have witnessed that act.

Thank god for the distraction of sports and the Sabres' run to the playo...um, never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The front page of today&#8217;s Buffalo News could not have been much more depressing.</p>
<p>&#8220;New taxes to to support record aid&#8221;  Despite Paterson&#8217;s warnings of limited aid and the need for cuts, Tom Precious reports that &#8220;(l)egislators and the Paterson administration are not looking to reduce spending levels from last year.  Instead, negotiators appear willing to fund at lower levels than former Gov&#8230;Spitzer proposed two months ago&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So, they aren&#8217;t really cutting anything of substance, and will in fact be raising taxes and fees.  It will be slightly less spwnding than what Client 9 wanted, but still a record (it is, after all, an election year for the legislature).  So, as the economy continues its slide, the Excelsior State will continue to believe it can tax itself into prosperity.  Do I tell my kids to flee now?</p>
<p>This story, of course, was sandwiched between the one about Spitzer lying in regard to Troopergate (I&#8217;m shocked, I tell you), and the article outlining the anger of the parents of the young lad who was allegedly fondled by a school aid, only to have the illustrious Buffalo school superintendent claim that he never read a certified letter &#8230; that he signed for &#8230; from the teacher who claimed to have witnessed that act.</p>
<p>Thank god for the distraction of sports and the Sabres&#8217; run to the playo&#8230;um, never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: starbuck</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215468</link>
		<dc:creator>starbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hank - To clarify my "Not the kinds of ideas most NY State voters want to hear of course".... 

Hope my comment was clear that I wanted those ideas and I joined the 30% voting for the candidate who proposed in detail what BP's post above is now calling for.  But the 70% of NYS voters who preferred Spitzer seemed to have different ideas or different priorities.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What’s next–NYS voters ask to be taxed MORE?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's exactly what most NYS voters are asking for, 72% of them, says a statewide poll last week:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03252008/news/regionalnews/ny_voters_back_rich_tax_103424.htm

&lt;blockquote&gt;NY VOTERS BACK 'RICH' TAX  By FREDRIC U. DICKER  

March 25, 2008 -- ALBANY - Tax the rich! That was the word yesterday from an overwhelming 72 percent of New York voters, including 60 percent of Republicans, who say they favor a Democratic plan to raise the personal income tax on millionaires. 

A new Siena College poll found support for the proposal by Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, which would add an extra 1 percentage point to the income taxes of those making more than $1 million annually, and raise some $1.5 billion a year.   ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not a coincidence the 72% favoring income tax hikes on the job-creating class is so close to the 70% vote Spitzer received in 2006.  Yesterday's budget agreement among Paterson-Silver-Bruno reportedly doesn't include an income tax hike, but it's interesting to see how much widespread popularity that idea had among voters here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank - To clarify my &#8220;Not the kinds of ideas most NY State voters want to hear of course&#8221;&#8230;. </p>
<p>Hope my comment was clear that I wanted those ideas and I joined the 30% voting for the candidate who proposed in detail what BP&#8217;s post above is now calling for.  But the 70% of NYS voters who preferred Spitzer seemed to have different ideas or different priorities.</p>
<blockquote><p>What’s next–NYS voters ask to be taxed MORE?</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly what most NYS voters are asking for, 72% of them, says a statewide poll last week:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/03252008/news/regionalnews/ny_voters_back_rich_tax_103424.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/seven/03252008/news/regionalnews/ny_voters_back_rich_tax_103424.htm</a></p>
<blockquote><p>NY VOTERS BACK &#8216;RICH&#8217; TAX  By FREDRIC U. DICKER  </p>
<p>March 25, 2008 &#8212; ALBANY - Tax the rich! That was the word yesterday from an overwhelming 72 percent of New York voters, including 60 percent of Republicans, who say they favor a Democratic plan to raise the personal income tax on millionaires. </p>
<p>A new Siena College poll found support for the proposal by Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, which would add an extra 1 percentage point to the income taxes of those making more than $1 million annually, and raise some $1.5 billion a year.   &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Not a coincidence the 72% favoring income tax hikes on the job-creating class is so close to the 70% vote Spitzer received in 2006.  Yesterday&#8217;s budget agreement among Paterson-Silver-Bruno reportedly doesn&#8217;t include an income tax hike, but it&#8217;s interesting to see how much widespread popularity that idea had among voters here.</p>
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		<title>By: hank kaczmarek</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215465</link>
		<dc:creator>hank kaczmarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't get this:
Not the kinds of ideas most NY State voters want to hear of course.

A spending freeze, a 50% Tax cut, these are things NYS voters want to hear?  

Businesses (those that are left) considering leaving could hear 

"eliminate taxes on capital gains and dividend income,"

What's next--NYS voters ask to be taxed MORE?  Self Flagellation in the streets?  Dogs and cats, living together? 40 days of darkness? 

NYS is a reformer's paradise---it's SO fucked up it can't really get much worse---no place to go but up. 

If the tax burden isn't lightened, the Authority System smashed, and 
the UNNNNIIIOOONS told to go fuck themselves, it will be like the 3 young toughs looking at a drunk passed out in the street---
One kid says "let's roll him"  another says"Nothing to roll, looks like he drank it all", the 3rd kicks the drunk and pisses on him. Then all 3 walk away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get this:<br />
Not the kinds of ideas most NY State voters want to hear of course.</p>
<p>A spending freeze, a 50% Tax cut, these are things NYS voters want to hear?  </p>
<p>Businesses (those that are left) considering leaving could hear </p>
<p>&#8220;eliminate taxes on capital gains and dividend income,&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next&#8211;NYS voters ask to be taxed MORE?  Self Flagellation in the streets?  Dogs and cats, living together? 40 days of darkness? </p>
<p>NYS is a reformer&#8217;s paradise&#8212;it&#8217;s SO fucked up it can&#8217;t really get much worse&#8212;no place to go but up. </p>
<p>If the tax burden isn&#8217;t lightened, the Authority System smashed, and<br />
the UNNNNIIIOOONS told to go fuck themselves, it will be like the 3 young toughs looking at a drunk passed out in the street&#8212;<br />
One kid says &#8220;let&#8217;s roll him&#8221;  another says&#8221;Nothing to roll, looks like he drank it all&#8221;, the 3rd kicks the drunk and pisses on him. Then all 3 walk away.</p>
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		<title>By: Ward</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215461</link>
		<dc:creator>Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update -- Sure enough, E. J. McMahon in today's NY Post says that the new Budget "cuts" include an increase in the Counties' share of welfare costs from 50% to 52%, and a $60 M shift in pre-trial juvenile detention costs from the state to the local level. Meanwhile, the State payroll--already expanded by 2,000 hacks under Gov. "Dude, do you want the Sex?"--is growing feverishly under a hiring binge before the budget takes effect. 
Makes one long for Gov. Suozzi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update &#8212; Sure enough, E. J. McMahon in today&#8217;s NY Post says that the new Budget &#8220;cuts&#8221; include an increase in the Counties&#8217; share of welfare costs from 50% to 52%, and a $60 M shift in pre-trial juvenile detention costs from the state to the local level. Meanwhile, the State payroll&#8211;already expanded by 2,000 hacks under Gov. &#8220;Dude, do you want the Sex?&#8221;&#8211;is growing feverishly under a hiring binge before the budget takes effect.<br />
Makes one long for Gov. Suozzi.</p>
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		<title>By: Ward</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215458</link>
		<dc:creator>Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the sense that Mr. Patterson is more wedded than was Gov. Spritzer to the traditional "needs" of SEIU 1199, CSEA, NYSUT, etc., and that the unfunded mandates will remain, as a "desperately needed" alternative to Albany spending in this time when "we need cuts". If, for example, SEIU can be fed a steady diet of mandated County Medicaid dollars, Mr. Patterson can concentrate on "cuts" in Albany. Plus ca change ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the sense that Mr. Patterson is more wedded than was Gov. Spritzer to the traditional &#8220;needs&#8221; of SEIU 1199, CSEA, NYSUT, etc., and that the unfunded mandates will remain, as a &#8220;desperately needed&#8221; alternative to Albany spending in this time when &#8220;we need cuts&#8221;. If, for example, SEIU can be fed a steady diet of mandated County Medicaid dollars, Mr. Patterson can concentrate on &#8220;cuts&#8221; in Albany. Plus ca change &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: starbuck</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215432</link>
		<dc:creator>starbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>typo, forgot the "not": ...and *not* much at all like whatever Spitzer was promsing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typo, forgot the &#8220;not&#8221;: &#8230;and *not* much at all like whatever Spitzer was promsing.</p>
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		<title>By: starbuck</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215431</link>
		<dc:creator>starbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The best revenue-raiser would be to halt the unfunded mandates, lower taxes and fees everywhere, and make the region far more economically attractive than it is now. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That wisdom sounds to me a LOT like the John Faso platform in 2006 and much at all like whatever little tweaks the other guy was promising.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/nyregion/22gov.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;Faso Unveils New Tax Plans With Cuts of $11 Billion   

BOLTON LANDING, N.Y., Sept. 21 — John Faso, the Republican candidate for governor, laid out an $11 billion tax cut plan Thursday that he said would reduce income taxes across the board and eliminate taxes on capital gains and dividend income, as well as taxes on new capital investment in the state. 

He also said he would seek to freeze state spending in his first year in office and after that would not accept spending increases exceeding the rate of inflation. 

...“The public is demanding change,” Mr. Faso said. “The situation of upstate cities is dire. They are in a fiscal death spiral because the private sector is not able to keep up with the rising cost of government.” ...

Mr. Faso is proposing to eliminate income taxes entirely for married couples earning up to $50,000 and for individuals earning up to $25,000; he would adjust tax brackets for the effect of inflation each year, reduce the number of brackets to four from five, eliminate taxes on capital gains and dividend income, and eliminate what is known as the rate recapture, which requires the wealthy to pay the highest rate on all their income. 

He also proposes to cut income taxes for everyone, reducing the highest rate to 6.25 percent for married couples with incomes of $80,000 or more, from 6.85 percent for married couples with incomes of $40,000 or more. His campaign said a married couple earning $90,000 would see their average income tax payment fall to $2,110 from $4,207. 
...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not the kinds of ideas most NY State voters want to hear of course, and we saw the results.  Something like 70% to 30% in favor of passionately tweaking the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put:</p>
<blockquote><p>The best revenue-raiser would be to halt the unfunded mandates, lower taxes and fees everywhere, and make the region far more economically attractive than it is now. </p></blockquote>
<p>That wisdom sounds to me a LOT like the John Faso platform in 2006 and much at all like whatever little tweaks the other guy was promising.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/nyregion/22gov.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/nyregion/22gov.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Faso Unveils New Tax Plans With Cuts of $11 Billion   </p>
<p>BOLTON LANDING, N.Y., Sept. 21 — John Faso, the Republican candidate for governor, laid out an $11 billion tax cut plan Thursday that he said would reduce income taxes across the board and eliminate taxes on capital gains and dividend income, as well as taxes on new capital investment in the state. </p>
<p>He also said he would seek to freeze state spending in his first year in office and after that would not accept spending increases exceeding the rate of inflation. </p>
<p>&#8230;“The public is demanding change,” Mr. Faso said. “The situation of upstate cities is dire. They are in a fiscal death spiral because the private sector is not able to keep up with the rising cost of government.” &#8230;</p>
<p>Mr. Faso is proposing to eliminate income taxes entirely for married couples earning up to $50,000 and for individuals earning up to $25,000; he would adjust tax brackets for the effect of inflation each year, reduce the number of brackets to four from five, eliminate taxes on capital gains and dividend income, and eliminate what is known as the rate recapture, which requires the wealthy to pay the highest rate on all their income. </p>
<p>He also proposes to cut income taxes for everyone, reducing the highest rate to 6.25 percent for married couples with incomes of $80,000 or more, from 6.85 percent for married couples with incomes of $40,000 or more. His campaign said a married couple earning $90,000 would see their average income tax payment fall to $2,110 from $4,207.<br />
&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Not the kinds of ideas most NY State voters want to hear of course, and we saw the results.  Something like 70% to 30% in favor of passionately tweaking the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Keeler</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215428</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is simple.  Whether or not Patterson actually does it is a different matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is simple.  Whether or not Patterson actually does it is a different matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Domst</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/6399#comment-215427</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Domst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd love to see a breakdown of how much unfunded mandates cost vs. our state allowance each year.  Right now I could only guess which is more, and that is unfair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see a breakdown of how much unfunded mandates cost vs. our state allowance each year.  Right now I could only guess which is more, and that is unfair.</p>
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