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	<title>Comments on: Bass Pro:  End of Civilization as we Know It?</title>
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		<title>By: Outdoors Lifestyle RSS &#124; Bass Pro: End of Civilization as we Know It?</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-202004</link>
		<dc:creator>Outdoors Lifestyle RSS &#124; Bass Pro: End of Civilization as we Know It?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Buffalo Pundit wrote an interesting post today on Bass Pro: End of Civilization as we Know It?Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt. What all that amounts to is represented by a simple equation: Bass Pro = fishing hunting = NASCAR   Click here to read more. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Buffalo Pundit wrote an interesting post today on Bass Pro: End of Civilization as we Know It?Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt. What all that amounts to is represented by a simple equation: Bass Pro = fishing hunting = NASCAR   Click here to read more. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Yup. &#171; all things buffalo</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161345</link>
		<dc:creator>Yup. &#171; all things buffalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t think you can have a more  thorough, rational, and realistic look at the Canal Side plan than BuffaloPundit does right [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] don&#8217;t think you can have a more  thorough, rational, and realistic look at the Canal Side plan than BuffaloPundit does right [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: TseTse</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161334</link>
		<dc:creator>TseTse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 18:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL How weird  A Revered archeological site?  Right up there with the Parthenon and the Pyramids! Cynthia needs a reality check. Comments like her's smack of  Grandiose delusional disorder. What , in reality, this boils down to is a small clique of unelected,  self-important elitist who refuse to compromise.  They will  use every method at their disposal to  thwart any input from the general public  by degrading  elected or duely appointed  officials. 

What community does she refer to? Was there a ballot initiative? Who was asked ? In fact, mis-representations, and half-truths indicate contempt  for the public at large, as if the rest of us are too stupid to know any better.
  
So 15,000 signed a petition . That means 275,000 didn't. Weren't asked? or refused?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL How weird  A Revered archeological site?  Right up there with the Parthenon and the Pyramids! Cynthia needs a reality check. Comments like her&#8217;s smack of  Grandiose delusional disorder. What , in reality, this boils down to is a small clique of unelected,  self-important elitist who refuse to compromise.  They will  use every method at their disposal to  thwart any input from the general public  by degrading  elected or duely appointed  officials. </p>
<p>What community does she refer to? Was there a ballot initiative? Who was asked ? In fact, mis-representations, and half-truths indicate contempt  for the public at large, as if the rest of us are too stupid to know any better.</p>
<p>So 15,000 signed a petition . That means 275,000 didn&#8217;t. Weren&#8217;t asked? or refused?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161312</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BuffaloLeanSoFarToTheLeftThatOurBrainsAreFallingOutAlerts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BuffaloLeanSoFarToTheLeftThatOurBrainsAreFallingOutAlerts</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161294</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops...here's the link...

http://fixbuffalo.blogspot.com/2007/05/role-reversal.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops&#8230;here&#8217;s the link&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://fixbuffalo.blogspot.com/2007/05/role-reversal.html" rel="nofollow">http://fixbuffalo.blogspot.com/2007/05/role-reversal.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161293</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 17:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BP and others...

Guess you missed the date - April 1st - for the Walmart piece!

The water front is big.  NO one, that I know,  is saying that Bass Pro isn't welcome.  The question is why do Bob &#38; Mindy Rich and their Florida neighbor Johnny Morris get to dictate where Bass Pro gets built and in so doing change the terms of the earlier agreement.

&lt;a&gt;Role Reversal...&lt;/a&gt; for additional images and the Flynn Battaglia sketch of the terminus area... 

Oh well...guess if you live in suburbia (or Florida) you have one notion of historical interpretation.  Trying to suggest that it's the correct one is a different topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BP and others&#8230;</p>
<p>Guess you missed the date - April 1st - for the Walmart piece!</p>
<p>The water front is big.  NO one, that I know,  is saying that Bass Pro isn&#8217;t welcome.  The question is why do Bob &amp; Mindy Rich and their Florida neighbor Johnny Morris get to dictate where Bass Pro gets built and in so doing change the terms of the earlier agreement.</p>
<p><a>Role Reversal&#8230;</a> for additional images and the Flynn Battaglia sketch of the terminus area&#8230; </p>
<p>Oh well&#8230;guess if you live in suburbia (or Florida) you have one notion of historical interpretation.  Trying to suggest that it&#8217;s the correct one is a different topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Size Nine Half Shoes</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161281</link>
		<dc:creator>Size Nine Half Shoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 16:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently heard a story from someone traveling in Africa who met some kids in a  small, poor village.  He told them where he was from and was stunned when one of them started singing "I have a mule and her name is Sal, 15 miles on the Erie Canal."  Kids, by the way, for whom English was not their first language.

Argue the other points, but thanks to a catchy folk song, Buffalo and the Erie Canal are in fact known the world over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently heard a story from someone traveling in Africa who met some kids in a  small, poor village.  He told them where he was from and was stunned when one of them started singing &#8220;I have a mule and her name is Sal, 15 miles on the Erie Canal.&#8221;  Kids, by the way, for whom English was not their first language.</p>
<p>Argue the other points, but thanks to a catchy folk song, Buffalo and the Erie Canal are in fact known the world over.</p>
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		<title>By: BuffaloRox</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161279</link>
		<dc:creator>BuffaloRox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 16:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I agree with alot of what BP says he trivializes two points. First, the preservationists fought for more than street network and rewatering.  To say otherwise is wrong.  NYS early efforts to recreate the Erie Canal terminus, led by Empire Development Corp, included talk of recreating buildings and history.  Second, the Erie Canal terminus arguably is the most globally significant  land in Buffalo.  I'm not sure what else is more significant.  Buffalo's growth and history is inextricably linked to the Erie canal.

While David Torke takes pot shots at the preservation crowd for ignoring the East Side (rightly IMO), I've never read any comments from Tim Tielman or other preservationists expressing a preference for IKEA or Crate &#38; Barrel over Bass Pro.  Dan clouds the issue by creating an inconsistency where none exists.  BP had a great post on why IKEA is not appropriate for this location.

I'm all for building up this area.  The Naval and Military Park is sufficent green space.  I'd like there to be multiple unique stores and restaurant/bars so that this doesn't become a single destination stop.  Reality dictates that there will need to be public parking nearby.  Quincy Market in Boston has a parking garage adjacent to the site and many garages within a block or two that serve downtown workers and tourists alike.  Make that canal are accessible to a waterfront park on the outer harbor where the Coast Guard station is and, hopefully, will be relocated or some other nearby greenspace.  I don't feel that we need another pocket park that isn't maintained after it is built (e.g., lights in Cathedral Park that are supposed to illuminate the trees don't work and the park between North and South Division near ECC not only has a water fountain that doesn't work, but is overgrown and acts as a summer camp for the homeless).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I agree with alot of what BP says he trivializes two points. First, the preservationists fought for more than street network and rewatering.  To say otherwise is wrong.  NYS early efforts to recreate the Erie Canal terminus, led by Empire Development Corp, included talk of recreating buildings and history.  Second, the Erie Canal terminus arguably is the most globally significant  land in Buffalo.  I&#8217;m not sure what else is more significant.  Buffalo&#8217;s growth and history is inextricably linked to the Erie canal.</p>
<p>While David Torke takes pot shots at the preservation crowd for ignoring the East Side (rightly IMO), I&#8217;ve never read any comments from Tim Tielman or other preservationists expressing a preference for IKEA or Crate &amp; Barrel over Bass Pro.  Dan clouds the issue by creating an inconsistency where none exists.  BP had a great post on why IKEA is not appropriate for this location.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for building up this area.  The Naval and Military Park is sufficent green space.  I&#8217;d like there to be multiple unique stores and restaurant/bars so that this doesn&#8217;t become a single destination stop.  Reality dictates that there will need to be public parking nearby.  Quincy Market in Boston has a parking garage adjacent to the site and many garages within a block or two that serve downtown workers and tourists alike.  Make that canal are accessible to a waterfront park on the outer harbor where the Coast Guard station is and, hopefully, will be relocated or some other nearby greenspace.  I don&#8217;t feel that we need another pocket park that isn&#8217;t maintained after it is built (e.g., lights in Cathedral Park that are supposed to illuminate the trees don&#8217;t work and the park between North and South Division near ECC not only has a water fountain that doesn&#8217;t work, but is overgrown and acts as a summer camp for the homeless).</p>
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		<title>By: Pauldub</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161209</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauldub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 14:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denizen is spot on.
Even though I am a baby boomer, subaru driving, not ex - hippie type :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denizen is spot on.<br />
Even though I am a baby boomer, subaru driving, not ex - hippie type <img src='http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: STEEL</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/5353#comment-161208</link>
		<dc:creator>STEEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto what Pundit said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto what Pundit said</p>
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