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	<title>Comments on: Dear Department of Homeland Security:</title>
	<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: realist</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-87892</link>
		<dc:creator>realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloviator posts ; "the first blown up city will be even worse for commerce than the fall out from the new ID requirements."

Passports didn't stop the 9/11 murderers, so what would be any different ? Much like having a firearm - only the law-abiding among us would truly be affected, monetarily or otherwise. It is a "feel-good" bandaid to a serious problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloviator posts ; &#8220;the first blown up city will be even worse for commerce than the fall out from the new ID requirements.&#8221;</p>
<p>Passports didn&#8217;t stop the 9/11 murderers, so what would be any different ? Much like having a firearm - only the law-abiding among us would truly be affected, monetarily or otherwise. It is a &#8220;feel-good&#8221; bandaid to a serious problem.</p>
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		<title>By: BuffaloBloviator.wnymedia.net</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-87884</link>
		<dc:creator>BuffaloBloviator.wnymedia.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-87884</guid>
		<description>I hope the government settles for the cheapest, easiest solution that effectively strengthens border security. I'm glad to see that the solution is getting lots of input and attention. I will go through the expense and inconvenience without complaining because unfortunately, the first blown up city will be even worse for commerce than the fall out from the new ID requirements. 

I would like to see parties on both sides of the debate, while debating the issue, attempt to instill a sense of duty upon the public to cooperate with the future policy when this is all settled and decided. The debate has unfortunately raised the levels of cynicism in the public and if the public does not cooperate in the process and get the new ID then commerce will suffer more than it would otherwise have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the government settles for the cheapest, easiest solution that effectively strengthens border security. I&#8217;m glad to see that the solution is getting lots of input and attention. I will go through the expense and inconvenience without complaining because unfortunately, the first blown up city will be even worse for commerce than the fall out from the new ID requirements. </p>
<p>I would like to see parties on both sides of the debate, while debating the issue, attempt to instill a sense of duty upon the public to cooperate with the future policy when this is all settled and decided. The debate has unfortunately raised the levels of cynicism in the public and if the public does not cooperate in the process and get the new ID then commerce will suffer more than it would otherwise have to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86995</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86995</guid>
		<description>This is a big initiative with the Bi-national tourism alliance, i attended their  conference last year as a tourism/hospitality student...many major players in attendance; all against the proposed legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a big initiative with the Bi-national tourism alliance, i attended their  conference last year as a tourism/hospitality student&#8230;many major players in attendance; all against the proposed legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: hank kaczmarek</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86985</link>
		<dc:creator>hank kaczmarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86985</guid>
		<description>As someone who grew up in Buffalo, I have the same vantage point that those who are anti-passport do.  All of our lives, Driver's License was enough.  Add in the natural human resistance to change, plus a fee, and everyone's hackles are up. 

If any of you enjoy Cruise Vacations as I do, you now need a passport to board any cruise ship which docks in the US, and I believe also in San Juan, P.R.  This policy has been adopted by all the major cruise lines.  

Oddly enough, the only people this affects is of course, Americans and Canadians, who have been able to get over with a photo ID and a certified copy of their Birth Certificate for many years.  Everyone else on the planet has needed a Passport or some type of Identity Papers to leave their own country for many years. 

And if you're ever in your life planning on visiting Europe, Asia, the Holy Lands before they glow from Nuclear War, etc.... you're going to need one anyway. 

Believe me, I  understand the "Stink" being raised on this issue, and the anticipated whack to an already hurtin' economy. But outside border areas, which many in WNY don't venture away from much, you're not going to get much empathy. 

Special Priviliges for people in border towns?  Nice if it can get worked out. 
People who lived in the old D.D.R. had special papers they had to carry because they lived within 15 miles of the frontier.  If you didn't have them, of course you were a suspect defector.  But the special effort was made to identify all those people in a special class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who grew up in Buffalo, I have the same vantage point that those who are anti-passport do.  All of our lives, Driver&#8217;s License was enough.  Add in the natural human resistance to change, plus a fee, and everyone&#8217;s hackles are up. </p>
<p>If any of you enjoy Cruise Vacations as I do, you now need a passport to board any cruise ship which docks in the US, and I believe also in San Juan, P.R.  This policy has been adopted by all the major cruise lines.  </p>
<p>Oddly enough, the only people this affects is of course, Americans and Canadians, who have been able to get over with a photo ID and a certified copy of their Birth Certificate for many years.  Everyone else on the planet has needed a Passport or some type of Identity Papers to leave their own country for many years. </p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re ever in your life planning on visiting Europe, Asia, the Holy Lands before they glow from Nuclear War, etc&#8230;. you&#8217;re going to need one anyway. </p>
<p>Believe me, I  understand the &#8220;Stink&#8221; being raised on this issue, and the anticipated whack to an already hurtin&#8217; economy. But outside border areas, which many in WNY don&#8217;t venture away from much, you&#8217;re not going to get much empathy. </p>
<p>Special Priviliges for people in border towns?  Nice if it can get worked out.<br />
People who lived in the old D.D.R. had special papers they had to carry because they lived within 15 miles of the frontier.  If you didn&#8217;t have them, of course you were a suspect defector.  But the special effort was made to identify all those people in a special class.</p>
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		<title>By: peter scott</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86862</link>
		<dc:creator>peter scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 13:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86862</guid>
		<description>to me its not the cost that is the major issue...

its that people are lazy and won't get one at all...which will seriously hurt the cross border economy...

its an unfair burden on border towns...it should be obvious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to me its not the cost that is the major issue&#8230;</p>
<p>its that people are lazy and won&#8217;t get one at all&#8230;which will seriously hurt the cross border economy&#8230;</p>
<p>its an unfair burden on border towns&#8230;it should be obvious</p>
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		<title>By: elaine</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86850</link>
		<dc:creator>elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of "Blue Collar" Buffalonians - and Canadians - seem able to pony up the cost of tickets to the Sabres and Bills games, so surely they can afford a passport, which is good for 10 years or just $10 a year. What's the big deal? I am happy that the feds have dropped the requirement for children 15 and younger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of &#8220;Blue Collar&#8221; Buffalonians - and Canadians - seem able to pony up the cost of tickets to the Sabres and Bills games, so surely they can afford a passport, which is good for 10 years or just $10 a year. What&#8217;s the big deal? I am happy that the feds have dropped the requirement for children 15 and younger.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullsh*t Detector (aka Keyboard Warrior &#38; Buffalo Hater)</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86672</link>
		<dc:creator>Bullsh*t Detector (aka Keyboard Warrior &#38; Buffalo Hater)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 03:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86672</guid>
		<description>Waaa waa waaa.  Just get the damn passports you big babies.  It's usefull for more than just "goin ta keeee-yanada."  

Maybe fewer  lap-dances, fewer cases of shitty Labeeee-yatts, fewer trips "ta da cas-eee-no," or fewer "fish-frays" for a few weeks and maybe you'll be able to afford that terribly large sum of $100.  Buffaloons are nothing special just because they live on the border with Kanada.   And if $100 for an important document (which is valid for 10 years) is a "hardship," then Barfallo is far more pathetic than even I thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waaa waa waaa.  Just get the damn passports you big babies.  It&#8217;s usefull for more than just &#8220;goin ta keeee-yanada.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Maybe fewer  lap-dances, fewer cases of shitty Labeeee-yatts, fewer trips &#8220;ta da cas-eee-no,&#8221; or fewer &#8220;fish-frays&#8221; for a few weeks and maybe you&#8217;ll be able to afford that terribly large sum of $100.  Buffaloons are nothing special just because they live on the border with Kanada.   And if $100 for an important document (which is valid for 10 years) is a &#8220;hardship,&#8221; then Barfallo is far more pathetic than even I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: BuffaloPundit</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86581</link>
		<dc:creator>BuffaloPundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86581</guid>
		<description>lulu: &lt;a href="http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;From the State Dept:&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lulu: <a href="http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html" rel="nofollow">From the State Dept:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>As early as January 1, 2008, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda by land or sea (including ferries), may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: lulu</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86565</link>
		<dc:creator>lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86565</guid>
		<description>I believe the current plan is only for "land travel" over the US/Canada border (not Mexico) so the Tijuana comment may need to be crossed out as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the current plan is only for &#8220;land travel&#8221; over the US/Canada border (not Mexico) so the Tijuana comment may need to be crossed out as well.</p>
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		<title>By: peter scott</title>
		<link>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86512</link>
		<dc:creator>peter scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://buffalopundit.wnymedia.net/blogs/archives/4867#comment-86512</guid>
		<description>paul...the point you make about the licenses is correct...but the fact is that citizenship can be put on licenses, not only in the us, but in canada too...

there is a two letter country code for every country in the world, 

cob: us
cit: us

thats all you'd need to add to the license...plus whatever bioinformatics are necessary...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul&#8230;the point you make about the licenses is correct&#8230;but the fact is that citizenship can be put on licenses, not only in the us, but in canada too&#8230;</p>
<p>there is a two letter country code for every country in the world, </p>
<p>cob: us<br />
cit: us</p>
<p>thats all you&#8217;d need to add to the license&#8230;plus whatever bioinformatics are necessary&#8230;</p>
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